Joobi

Hi,

be sure that this third list is published and not visible to the frontend

mihha wrote:

Hi,

be sure that this third list is published and not visible to the frontend

this is technically a much bigger problem.

the state victune is trying to achieve is:

1. hidden registration - for this the value: Auto Subscribe Users? should be set to New Users


2. allow a user to unsubscribe from the list - for this the list itself must be set as Visible in frontend


3. the user should be unaware of this registration (as an addition to the first point) - therefor the list shoud not be listed in the CB integration (to appear on registration) - not even as hidden inputs because tampering the post data will allow a user to not subscribe himself to the list

So in your case, you simply have to configure your Acajoom CB Plugin so it will add your three lists on the CB form (with check by default and display name).

I have problem with this method. In some countries, include mine, it is not allowed to use "check by default" for commercial lists, because the Law (The Anti Spam Act) allow sending newsletters only to those who check/sign by themselves. 
It is allowed to use "check by default" for non commercial lists (in my case it is the third list).

the function 'modify your subscription' will only display your visible lists. But I don't think it's a problem in your case.

Unfortionatly, The Anti Spam Act, forbidden such function no matter what kind of list is it (commercial or not).

I'm not a coder, but I believe that this issue need a fix, not just because the Law, but because it should function like that.

Thanks.

As soon as you provide a direct link in your Newsletter to unsubscribe from the mailing list, it's compliant with any Anti Spam law I read... So the "modify your subscription" is an extra information and the "unsubscribe" link is legally enough.

In fact, you simply want to add some hidden lists in your registration form but don't check the visible ones by default... isn't it?

If so, I will make the changes so any hidden list will be "checked" by default and leave the option "check list by default" only for visible lists. Would that do the job for you?

As soon as you provide a direct link in your Newsletter to unsubscribe from the mailing list, it's compliant with any Anti Spam law I read... So the "modify your subscription" is an extra information and the "unsubscribe" link is legally enough.

Yes, I also believe it is legelly enough. But I think you should consider this option, because the Court...can to interpret the Law different.

If so, I will make the changes so any hidden list will be "checked" by default and leave the option "check list by default" only for visible lists. Would that do the job for you?

Yes. This will the job and will be compliant to the Law, but as said @mtk there is a problem with hidden lists.

:dry:

Adrien wrote:

Ok, so we all agree.

BTW, we are aware of the possible problem with hidden lists.

great!
when do you expect a first/initial release for this problem?

Adrien wrote:

About the values of hidden fields, that will wait the next generation of Acajoom (two or three months).

no, sorry again.
the spam law requires no opt-out subscription.
meaning, the subscriber needs to ask for a subscription & not opt out (unmark the checkbox) from it...

You can download the new Acajoom CB Plugin from our website, it's up to date including this modification.

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